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Liz- 08-20-2007
SS Independence
Today, from Reuben Goossens :cry: :cry: :cry: Do you have the feeling that he does NOT get free cruises on NCL :roll: http://www.ssmaritime.com/

redqueen- 08-20-2007

And he probably never will. :lol: :lol:

Carolyn Jane- 08-24-2007

Lifted this from CND today...United States buyer??? * So Long to an Old Friend Since NCL purchased it shortly after NCL America began, the classic ship SS Independence has been sitting at the dock and waiting for her time to return to service in NCLA livery. That time is not now going to come. NCL confirmed to CND today that the ship has been sold to another US owner. Independence, which last saw service with American Hawaii Line in Hawaii, was purchased when the opportunity presented itself because it was a US-built hull (one of the last remaining cruise ships) and could therefore be US-registered. NCL saw Independence and United States (which was acquired about the same time) as one of their few options if they were ever going to expand their US-flagged fleet. From the outset, NCL CEO Colin Veitch told us that Independence's condition made it questionable if it could ever actually sail again. He also said that the game plan would be for United States to enter service first followed by Independence. But, he always stressed, before either ship would see service, NCLA had to have their new American-flagged fleet in place and operating successfully. NCLA has faced a number of challenges in the operation of the American-flagged fleet, and as you know from our coverage of the financial calls, the operation has yet to be successful financially. In the last quarter, things improved, but the Hawaii operation's losses are dragging down the entire company's profitability. Meanwhile, Independence has been sitting waiting patiently in San Francisco, and NCL has been providing tender loving life support for the classic liner. At one point in the last year or so, they even gave her a new name, Oceanic. It must have become apparent to NCL that given the ship's questionable condition (of ever being able to be put into sailing condition and meeting future SOLAS laws), and the long time it is taking for NCLA to become financially successful, that the former Independence's time to sail again would be too far in the future to make it economically feasible to continue to keep the ship in storage. It costs a lot to maintain a ship, even one that is just tied up at the pier. When we talked with Steve Ciccalone, the project director who oversees Oceanic and United States, he confirmed the sale, but could only say it was sold to another US owner. As it usually works with these things, the new owner will have to be the one to identify himself and talk about any possible plans for the ship. Ciccalone pointed out that just because Independence is out of the picture, it doesn't mean that NCL is looking for a buyer for United States. "That's simply not the plan," he said. The ship is still a prized possession of the line, and NCL hopes it can become part of the future NCLA fleet. As we reported in the past, NCL has had engineering studies performed on United States, and it looks feasible that it could one day return to service in NCLA colors, but everything is at a standstill waiting for that day when the Hawaii operation is financially successful. Then things can start moving again for United States. Ciccalone said the biggest news about "Big U" at the moment is that a couple of hawks have taken up uninvited residence on the ship. The unintended benefit is they are successfully helping to control "Big U's" growing pigeon population. Meanwhile Ciccalone says he's just waiting for his dream job - the day he's named superintendent for reconstruction on United States. And you can tell, he's planning on that day coming. ===========

Lancashirelad- 08-24-2007

Sad though it is that QE2 is being sold in 2008, this kind of story just reminds me how bad things could be. :(. My heart goes out to all those who loved her :cry:

Carolyn Jane- 08-24-2007

But then...How long has it been since she last sailed??? those folks might be pretty old now...CJ

Liz- 08-24-2007

:shock: :shock: :shock: Independence was my first transatlantic crossing :cry: :cry: I was 17 :D

tigersxm- 08-24-2007

I cruised the Hawaiian islands on Independence, a classy, beautiful ship! :D

Carolyn Jane- 08-25-2007

Sorry, I was confusing her with others who had been mothballed...and with Patriot, who was Nieuw Amsterdam, and is now Thomson Something...CJ

Liz- 02-12-2008

:cry: :cry: :cry: Phil put me on to this http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/02/09/BAQ4UV6PT.DTL

Liz- 02-12-2008

A picture from SS Maritime....Reuben Goosens's site

Liz- 02-13-2008

From Maritime Matters http://maritimematters.blogspot.com/

tony- 02-14-2008

How incredibly sad. If the fates be guarding her hopefully she will die a dignified death sinking mysteriously as her sister ship Constitution did while being towed to the breakers by the infamous De Da. Or perhaps as the SS America did breakng loose from her ropes and washing up on a beach on the Canary Islands and be taken by the sea after many years and storms. I feel it is so much more fitting for great great ships. My first trans-atlantic crossing was in 1953 on Constitution and two more times in the years after that. I remember the excitment the day when the two great liners would pass mid atlantic, one eastbound, one westbound and now into our memories. Farewell to a great ship.

Liz- 02-14-2008

Yes, I can only hope that Pacific Hickory will prove to be another DeDa :!: :!: :!: Didn't work with Norway, though :cry: :cry: :cry:

tigersxm- 02-20-2008

Maybe some good news for Independence :?: I guess we will have to wait and see what happens. I'll keep my fingers crossed! Maybe "recycling" means "refurbishment" rather than "scrap" :?: From Travel Weekly newsletter... "The fate of the Independence may not be the scrap yard after all. Capt. Yogesh Rehani, the director of operations for Global Marketing Systems, which claimed to be the agent of the new owner of the Independence, said that the vessel was "heading towards the Far East for a conversion project," possibly a floating hotel or casino. On its Web site, Global Marketing Systems describes itself as "one of the largest cash buyers of ships for recycling in the world." According to the U.S. Maritime Administration, the current owner of the ship is Global Shipping LLC." www.TravelWeekly.com

Liz- 02-20-2008

:D :D :D That would be WONDERFUL news :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: .....but I don't see the article in Travel Weekly :?: :?:

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